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theoldwolf ([personal profile] theoldwolf) wrote2009-12-12 12:37 am
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You will Worship, and You will Like It!

Tea Party activist is trying to get a ballot initiative on the books in California that will force schools to play Christmas music.

Under the "Freedom to Present Christmas Music in Public School Classrooms or Assemblies" initiative. The move would require schools to play traditional [read: religious] Christmas carols for students with the penalty for not doing so being legal action.

I adopted Mogg and came up with "hqiz" to help keep me from blaspheming, but this sort of social horsehockey brings me right up to the edge of the Cliffs of Insanity...

Holy [obscenity][vulgarity]. I don't care if the movement is taken seriously or not... the simple fact that anyone would have the solid osmium cojones to propose such a thing puts my brain into turks' head knots.

Gah!

[identity profile] fearciuil.livejournal.com 2009-12-12 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
...?!?

Whut? These people have never heard of the First Amendment?

[identity profile] stiobhan.livejournal.com 2009-12-12 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
It's just good old-fashioned intolerance and extremism. Seems like all the kewl kids are into it these days.

But framing compulsory worship as "freedom" is a nice added touch.

[identity profile] stevenroy.livejournal.com 2009-12-12 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
Well, as long as no one votes for that, democracy works...

Failing that, we can just shoot everyone who votes for that, and then be secure in the knowledge that democracy will probably work better the next time. (Unless we ever have to do this a second time, in which case we're kinda defeating the purpose of democracy!)

Seriously though, folks... (And really, I hope no one takes that shooting-people suggestion seriously; anyone who does should be shot!)

The thing about Christmas music is that it can be put into three distinct categories: "Christian Christmas" carols (the ones about Jesus and the Nativity), "secular Christmas" carols (the ones about Santa, Frosty, various reindeers), and seasonal carols (the ones that are about Winter and not Christmas at all). As long as the Christmas music performed in schools is limited to the latter two categories, there isn't really a problem - although they still shouldn't be forced to do that.

Maybe someone else should try to put an initiative on the ballot favoring criminal punishments for people trying to put frivolous initiatives on ballots. Something as blatantly activist as that Christmas thing should be a misdemeanor at the very least, the kind with hefty fines and community service and a week or two of probation.

[identity profile] canisrufus-uk.livejournal.com 2009-12-12 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
ok.......

Well, put simply.

Should schools (or anyone) be free to play Christmas music if they want to? Yes.

Should schools (or anyone) be legally required to play Christmas music if, for any reason, they don't want to? No.

Should whoever came up with this lunacy be locked, alone in a room for several weeks with a constant, unending loop of "Jingle bells" until they never want to hear another Christmas song? **** yes!

[identity profile] deckardcanine.livejournal.com 2009-12-12 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect that this is deliberately extreme in an effort to counteract those who would prevent schools from being allowed to play Christmas music. But I don't like the method.