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Just need to let off some steam here:




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  1. You can't tell me Firefox 3 isn't a resource hog. My system slows down to a crawl when I'm using it... today I caught the bugger in the act, and the problem persisted even after I had closed the application.





    Get your act together, Mozilla.

  2. Open Letter to Microsoft:

    Dear Microsoft, when an application hangs, and I get the menu to end the application now, and I click on "Yes",

    End the effing process!



  3. The Microsoft Error Message They Don't Want You to See:






Thank you. I feel much better now.

Date: 2008-10-09 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secoh.livejournal.com
Yep, I think the last update killed it. It's gone from being awesome to being a thing of enormous frustration.

I have started using Google Chrome Beta for the time being until it's patched again.

Date: 2008-10-10 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccdesan.livejournal.com
Glad it's not just me... ;)

Date: 2008-10-10 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torakiyoshi.livejournal.com
My personal favorite "true Microsoft screen" is here: http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/

-=TK

Date: 2008-10-10 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ccdesan.livejournal.com
Wiping away tears... oh, that was priceless.

Date: 2008-10-10 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torakiyoshi.livejournal.com
Clicking "screw everything up" used to just recurse to the same page. The new one has replaced "screw" with... a synonym.

-=TK

Date: 2008-10-10 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marmoe.livejournal.com
In case you want to get rid of error reporting:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310414

Date: 2008-10-10 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-caton.livejournal.com
I am convinced that some Macroscoff creations have sections where the instructions are executed in a different order every time. Like a race condition. I suppose that's affirmative action....

Date: 2008-10-10 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dhlawrence.livejournal.com
It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than anything else I've tried.

And yes, please end the process already!

Date: 2008-10-11 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stevenroy.livejournal.com
I haven't had any real problems yet with Firefox. Then again, I've still got 3.0.1 here. It sounds like there's a chance I should wait until 3.0.4 before updating again. (Despite its problems, IE is my primary browser anyway, mainly due to habit.)

The thing is, "end task/application" and "end process" are not really synonyms. An application can sometimes consist of more than one process, each process usually consisting of multiple threads for some reason. It's up to the application to terminate all the threads when it exits (or gets killed), but if something goes wrong, some threads might get stuck, meaning one process won't exit when the rest of the application (including its UI) does. Windows doesn't always detect this condition, thus a program can vanish from the "Applications" list and still remain in "Processes".

(In fact, I just had something like this happen yesterday when I installed Diablo II and somehow wound up with an extra "iexplore.exe" process in memory. It wasn't really doing anything but I killed it anyway.)

(Incidentally, I believe multithreading is one of the world's most abused coding practices. It's almost always used, and almost never necessary!)

As for the "Error Reporting" feature, it's really only useful if the same error gets reported enough times (by enough different people) for Microsoft to say "We better investigate this." That has happened, though. There have been a few times when I've hit the "Send Error Report" button, and then been directed to a web site with more information, usually including a link to an update for the crashing program. (Or to Microsoft Update in one case when Word crashed!)

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